As a first note I want to clarify that these products, once purchased, will not be owned by me or any other individual or business, but will be considered communal property by the Socks & Gloves family to be used for our efforts both corporately and individually. This means that anyone at anytime in our circle can use these products for the sake of the homeless. The drink dispensers will of course be taken care of and accounted for at all times, but the goal is that they will be frequently utilized and not simply sit in one person's garage. Get it? The reality is that Socks & Gloves really does belong to all of us and I'd love to continue to see a strong group ownership as well as unique individual contribution and creativity for the benefit of everyone. On a practical note, some of our purchase is welcome to be stored in my garage, but I imagine that others in our posse may step up to take ownership over managing some drinks in two ways: 1) storing supplies, and 2) preparing drinks before our events.
Here are some of our options:
Option A:
I have found a $75.00 backpack sprayer at Home Depot (4 gallon) that will be able to hold cold liquids such as lemonade or water or whatever we'd like. The clear advantage of getting two of these is that they hold a decent amount of liquid and they can be utilized in most months in Sacramento (minus Winter). Of course when we split off into groups, we can have a pack with each group too. Yes, it is true that backpacks as such are designed to be used for spraying pesticides, but we know of a group called The Way that regularly uses these devices and everything has been fine with their safety and usability. There has been some concern here, so let's dialogue about that if necessary. I would not be comfortable in ever jeopardizing the safety of those we serve.
Option B:
We can make a purchse of a Rocket Man beverage dispenser backpack as pictured below. These backpacks will hold either hot or cold drinks. These are "the bomb" backpacks so to speak. The upside is that this would be versataille for us in terms of allowing cold and hot drinks or even soup, but the downside is that a backpack as such would cost between $500-600. The backpack appears to hold 2.5-3 gallons.
Option C:
If we feel comfortable purchasing backpack sprayers for warm months (cold drinks), then we need to get something for colder months in order to hold hot chocolate, coffee, tea, etc... We can always purchase a Cambro-style product. After initial research, it appears that most thermal servers are priced somewhere between $130-$204 and they appear to be able to hold anywhere from 2.5 gallons to 10 gallons of liquid. The upside is that these appear to be dishwasher safe and some of them can hold soup too. However, I did find some Cambro brand "Thermal Servers" at 48 ounces that were priced at $22.00 and then 64 ounces at $100.00 Ultimately if we were able to purchase four 48 ouce cambros (or more), then that could be advantageous in that it would hold a decent supply of liquid as well as spread the work out to a number of people for our gatherings in order to prepare a drink in advance so that one person is not trying to boil 200 ounces of water for 4 cambros... These containers are small enough to cart around. The downside is that they don't hold too much liquid. And on that note, how much liquid capabilities should we aim for anyway? I wonder how much we could pass out.
Option D:
Someone can write letters to distributors of products as such and ask them for free products. Anyone interested in doing that?
Questions:
Which scenario do you like best? Which option(s) sound like a wise investment, practical, and feasible to do financially? Would anyone be willing to store any of these products? Anyone have access to powdered drinks? Any creativity to throw into the mix here in terms of product selection, use, or fundraising?
The Big Number:
If we went the route of Options A & C, then we would need to scrape together $240 or so. And then let's raise an additional $50 at least for powdered drinks. If we had a huge supply of both hot chocolate and lemonade, that would be an enormous blessing and save money for the future, not to mention, keep us prepared to serve in an instant. So with that, if we go this route, let's say that a solid $300+ will be necessary. If we go with Option B, then $600+ will be necessary.
The Finances so Far:
1. $50 check from an out-of-towner.
2. $33.51 cash donation from friend.
3. House of Grace offered to pay down 1/2 of one of the Home Depot backpacks ($37.50) if I understand the blog comment properly.
4. My family will throw in funds.
5. A friend e-mailed and said he may be willing to chip in some fundage.
6. Other people have expressed a desire to help out.
Action:
Let's dialogue below about this and kick around some of these options and thoughts so that we can make a purchase very soon (in the next month or sooner would be great). And if you are open to support this venture financially at any level, please let me know somehow (either comment below or e-mail me at socks at lundquistcompany dot com). Any amount is welcome and appreciated. Thanks.
For God's glory...




5 comments:
On the options:
Option A seems reasonable, the only thing is I hope no one would be alarmed and think we were trying to poison people or something. Silly thought, yes, perhaps, but that's something we would have to be careful about. Otherwise it seems like a great idea. And it's affordable.
Option B would be really cool, it seems more legit than the sprayer but obviously it's like 10 times the cost. Maybe we ask them to give it to us at reduced price or donate? Problem is we aren't an official registered nonprofit, so they might not trust us. But you never know. I'd be willing to donate some of the cost if others want to chip in.
Option C seems good too, and having multiple smaller 48 oz containers might help if people head out in smaller teams. But you can blow through 48 oz pretty quickly. Then the 64 oz seems cost-prohibitive... better to go with a backpack type deal.
Option D would be worth pursuing I think. It never hurts to ask.
Thanks for the research, Ry. I like the idea of asking for donations or reduced prices on the top of the line stuff. Since we talked about this last I've had 2nd thoughts about serving drinks out of the pesticide one even if it were new. I wouldn't feel comfortable serving your children a drink out of this; so, why is it any different to someone living on the street? We don't have any idea how clean and FDA approved the seals or polymer making process might be for these. It's probably not highly regulated since it's meant to hold stuff that is made to kill bugs rather than refresh people. I'd be proud to serve people out of a canister or a rocket pack.
I can ask my 501(c)3 if they'd be willing to give a charitable contribution receipt if a company were to donate one. If they're not, I'll bet Traver Dougherty's group would be. They're basically helping little start up non profits without the non profit status for their community projects.
The idea of smaller stuff might end up being more feasible in terms of prep and clean up. Since we're usually coming home at night, someone might be stuck in the dark washing out the big pesticide thing with a garden hose and dish soap month after month. Whereas with smaller stuff or the rocket pack, it looks like they'd break into smaller pieces that would be easier to clean indoors or even in a dishwasher. Also, it'd take at least 2 people to fill the pesticide thing since it's not free standing. That would prevent a single person from taking on drink prep.
I also found this 100 oz. thing on e-bay and onther websites (I imagine it would work for more than just beer:): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300078697619&rd=1&rd=1
Bottom line for me, I want to do good homework to network and invest in something that we'll be likely to use and reuse often with minimal hassle.
I think we should go for the rocket man. It just seems safer and has a really cool name..lol. I am going to write them and see if we can get a reduced price one for a non profit. Well see if they ask for info. If they do I think I might know a church that we can funnel it through. I am willing to throw in $75.00 if we go for the rocket man....man!
kirk out
My church, City Life, has offered to give tax receipts for funding and donations for socks and gloves things. That will probably also include things like cash donations for our Laundry passes @ City Suds. If we need them for the rocket man they're up for that, too.
Great news about City Life. What a great option. Nice to have support.
Miguel has a bid in on e-bay for a RocketMan pack, so we might be able to get a used one for very cheap. He also e-mailed them and they said that because of what we are doing, that they would sell us a new one for $425 I think it was.
We shall see...
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